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Ok to start off i bought a win 8 computer last year

I havent had much luck with it and with trying everything i decided screw it I'll buy a new hard drive and win 7

Hard drive gets picked up by BIOS no problems there

Win 7 wont install on this computer though

The disk run thru the white bar at the bottom, windows is loading, then gets to the very first starting windows screen and locks up

So I tried it in another machine and it runs thru fine

So I put my new hard drive in the other machine and got it installed no problems

I put the hard drive with win 7 in this computer and i get no bootable device.

yes it is still in the bios and if i move it to the secondary hard drive space it gets picked up and al the files are there

It will run fine in my older machine

just not this one

 

the newer one with more RAM and better processor etc

 

any ideas lol

 

A friend told me to post on this site see if anyone can come up with anything

 

Ive tried using partition wizard set partition to active no change

 

And it does run fine in the older machine

 

both machines are toshiba

updated bios drivers

 

i dont know what other info to give

thanks for any info

 



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Make sure uefi is turned off, 7 has all sorts of problems with the new uefi bios.


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Give us your Toshiba laptop model # and Firmware/BIOS version #. Some Tosiba models don't have a legacy BIOS option when shipped, but a BIOS update can fix this,


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Many Newer System have UEFI Only and do not allow MBR Installations...

so as Dave ask, we do need the exact model # as full and complete as possible....

 

Some Models (different Manufactures) will not have the ability to ever use MBR - and only allow UEFI.


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First you have convert Dynamic or GPT disk to Basic & rebuild MBR... you have good tool here http://www.beyondwin...n-variety-pack/

Regards... ;-)


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So I tried it in another machine and it runs thru fine

So I put my new hard drive in the other machine and got it installed no problems

I put the hard drive with win 7 in this computer and i get no bootable device.

 

If the new will not accept MBR - that would not help. - unless the BIOS can be changed to "Legacy"  or as some now have "CSM"  and still 99% of Windows 7 fails on that also.

Most Manufactures now state if the Model per supports Windows 7 or not, lots of reading, I have found

NOT 100% GUARANTEED>  If the New Product has Windows 8 Pre-Installed most likely will support MBR and down-grade to Windows 7, If Pre-Installed Windows 8.1

will not allow DOWN GRADE to Windows 7.

 

PLUS - I do not think the "HACKED BIOS" is a good idea to try.  (Reason: I have been told by 3 different Manufactures that they can tell if you FLASHED A HACKED VERSION.

AND NO WARRANTY THERE-AFTER.


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First you have convert Dynamic or GPT disk to Basic & rebuild MBR... you have good tool here http://www.beyondwin...n-variety-pack/

Regards... ;-)

thanks for all the info everyone

i tried the link but i dont have permission

im going to check the uefi that was suggestioned a couple times

 

already out of warranty because i took the stickers off so doesnt matter there

 

toshiba satellite model 8D154189C



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i tried the link but i dont have permission

 
Both links work.........Don't understand about permission.


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The link is in the VIP section, and he is not... a VIP.

Ill do some checking on his Computer as see what i can find..

 

seems Toshiba has not record of that #.  so either part of the Model is missing or not correct.


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The link is in the VIP section, and he is not... a VIP.

 

 

 

 Didn't even think about that link.  :banghead:


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thanks for all the info everyoen again

the uefi worked

started right up

now i just need all the drivers and im all set thanks

 

the model number is fine i look it up all the time for new drivers

oops sorry just realized i gave my serial not the model

satellite p70-a model


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Just goes to show, Windows 8.1 rocks!!!!!


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Well darn it just happened again

I got a blue screen in windows 7

Everything has been running fine until now

Reason I was having problems with win 8 was the blue screens

Always the same thing and I keep drivers up to date but it jus tkeep happening

I found whocrashed to help read the dump files

it always mentions the same thing, ntoskrnl.exe

The only thing I can find is its about video drivers.

video drivers are up to date by nvidia

Could ther ebe a problem with the video card that is causing all these problems ?

 

Any ideas would be helpful

thanks

crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\092614-20623-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x75BC0)
Bugcheck code: 0x50 (0xFFFFF9602014C620, 0x8, 0xFFFFF9602014C620, 0x2)
Error: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that invalid system memory has been referenced.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



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I don't care what the dump says, I think this is a hardware issue. Overheating possibly? I was going to say HDD, but since you installed a new one it is something else more than likely, could be overheating video? Have you checked the fans, make sure they are spinning at decent speed or at all?


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Try rolling back your Video driver to the previous version the latest drivers from Nvidia are causing some issues this is well documented give it a try.

 

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Great idea Maxed, especially since 'confused' had this problem with the original Win 8 OS. Could very well be that the latest driver is not the greatest driver for this system. Maybe graphics needs a legacy driver? That's a fact for ATI HD 3870 (maybe 4870 too) and previous cards, can't say about Nvidia.


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I am pretty sure that it is a Nividia driver problem I had one do the same thing a week ago windows 7 and 8 take the same driver BsOD have been widley reported with Nvidias  latest driver.


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Ok

 

Since when I installed win 7 i used the latest driver I will look for the previous version

thanks


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definetly find an older version of the Nvidia driver remove the one you have installed now and install the previous version I think it will take care of your problem.

 

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here is the one I am using:

 

http://www.nvidia.co...spx/73780/en-us


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