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Windows 8 users face patch spigot shutoff in 7 months


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Windows 8 users face patch spigot shutoff in 7 months

 

Windows 8 users have a little less than seven months to move to Windows 8.1 or be severed from Microsoft's security update stream.

 

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The 2012 operating system will be retired from support on Jan. 12, 2016. After that date -- which is the month's traditional patch-release day -- users of Windows 8 will not see further security updates, including those for Internet Explorer 11 (IE11), the OS's bundled browser.
 
To continue to receive security updates, Windows 8 users must upgrade to Windows 8.1, the free 2013 edition available from the Windows Store, Microsoft's app market.
 
The January 2016 deadline has been in place since the debut of Windows 8.1 nearly two years ago, and was positioned as analogous to the 24-month grace period previously given to customers for migrating from a core OS to that operating system's first "service pack."
 
Although the service pack concept is now moot -- wounded by Windows 8 and to be authoritatively killed by Windows 10 -- Microsoft described the Windows 8-to-Windows 8.1 requirement in service pack terms.
 
"Historically, we've had a similar support approach related to Windows service packs," Microsoft stated in a long FAQ. "When a Windows service pack is released, Microsoft provides customers 24 months of support for the prior service pack or original RTM version. We designed Windows 8.1 to give customers an ability to deploy [it] in a manner that is similar to how customers deploy service packs, therefore we are applying the existing service pack support policy to Windows 8.1."
 
There is a not-insignificant number of devices running Windows 8, according to Web analytics company Net Applications. For May, Net Applications estimated that Windows 8 powered 3.9% of all Windows personal computers, while the newer Windows 8.1 ran on about 14.1% of Windows PCs.
 
Using the 1.5 billion number that Microsoft claims as the total of devices that run Windows worldwide -- a number some believe is overinflated, while others think it is an undercount -- Windows 8 is on approximately 63 million systems, Windows 8.1 on 226 million.
 
Windows 8's user share, a rough estimate of the number of the devices running the OS, is almost double that of Microsoft's even bigger flop of 2007, Windows Vista, which last month powered about 2.2% of all Windows PCs.
 
Unlike machines equipped with Windows 8.1, those running the year-older Windows 8 cannot upgrade directly to Windows 10, and are, in fact, not eligible for the free upgrade Microsoft will offer through the end of July 2016.
 
More specifically, Windows 8.1 must, at a minimum, be the version dubbed "Windows 8.1 Update," which Microsoft delivered in April 2014, and notoriously demanded that consumers install within one month, and businesses within four.
 
Windows 8 users thus have two paths to continued support: Upgrade to Windows 8.1 and stay there, or update to Windows 8.1, then upgrade to Windows 10. The latter is more sensible. But some will resist migrating to Windows 10. Many of those will not want to lose Windows Media Center, the DVR-like add-on that Microsoft sold for $9.99 to people running Windows 8 Pro.
 
"If you have ... Windows 8 Pro with Media Center or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed," Microsoft acknowledged in a specifications listing for Windows 10.
 
Microsoft has published a detailed tutorial on how to upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 on its website.
 
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Windows 8, while powering a decreasing percentage of PCs running either it or Windows 8.1, still runs 1 in 5 of those devices. Users have 7 months to update to Windows 8.1 or migrate to Windows 10.
 
 

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i bought two windows 8 pro serials from microsoft in 2012 that i've never used

 

i must install 8 with these regular serials and then update to 8.1 in order to get  10 pro

 

or is it possible to install directly an updated 8.1 and then insert these windows 8 serials?


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I just wanna thank M$ for doing this with Windows 8,  I am one of prolly MILLIONS that went out a purchased Windows 8 Perfessional when it came out ... I bought mine at Beast Buy for $39,00 on a one day sale but thats not the point and I'm not really worried about the $39. BUT, what do we do with this Windows 8 ??? Sue M$ to get our money back just because they wanna force us to use Windows 10 !! in my opinion that IS NOT ONE BIT FAIR !!! I had to BUY a rental piece of software and now the publisher does not want to use it anymore ... Even M$ which in my opinion is 90% brain dead should realize that M$ is one on the main reason There are SOFTWARE PIRATES and the PIRATES will always WIN no matter what M$ and all these other overpriced money grabbing leeching software makers make, The PIRATES WILL WIN !!!! :headbang:

 

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i bought two windows 8 pro serials from microsoft in 2012 that i've never used

 

i must install 8 with these regular serials and then update to 8.1 in order to get  10 pro

 

or is it possible to install directly an updated 8.1 and then insert these windows 8 serials?

Windows 8.0 keys are not Windows 8.1 Keys ... and will not work.

so install Windows 8, Activate then upgrade to 8.1.


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BUT, what do we do with this Windows 8 ??? Sue M$ to get our money back just because they wanna force us to use Windows 10 !!

 

Or you can update to 8.1 Pro and stay with it until M$ declares it EOL if you don't want windows 10..... :mrgreen:


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Windows 8.0 keys are not Windows 8.1 Keys ... and will not work.

so install Windows 8, Activate then upgrade to 8.1.

 

sorry but 

 

When you'll try to install Windows 8.1 using bootable USB drive or DVD created with the help of Windows 8.1 Installation Media Creation Tool, you can use either Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product key at the time of installation. Both are accepted.


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sorry but 

 

When you'll try to install Windows 8.1 using bootable USB drive or DVD created with the help of Windows 8.1 Installation Media Creation Tool, you can use either Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product key at the time of installation. Both are accepted.

That i have never tried. but was told NO. Thanks for the info..

Might try., so inserting the Windows 8 key will allow Installation and Activation.  ?


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yeah

 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media

 

by the way it is a lovely iso of windows 8.1 update 1


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OK so get it unless MS removes it (correction Before MS Removes it.)

Get It - Got it - Good

THANKS


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Have you tested an Validated a Windows 8 key will work....

I ask (Not that I need I do have both KEYS available)

 

quote from page

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media

 

Notes
  • If you're running Windows 8, we recommend that you first try to use the Windows Store to install Windows 8.1. For answers to some common questions about installing Windows 8.1, see Update to Windows 8.1: FAQ.

  • If you’re not running Windows 8 or Windows 8.1, you’ll need to enter a Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product key. You'll also need a product key if you're running Windows 8 and trying to install Windows 8.1 Pro. To learn how to buy Windows 8.1 to get a product key, go to the Get Windows page.

  • If you're running Windows Vista or Windows XP, see Upgrade to Windows 8.1 from Windows Vista or Windows XP.

  • If you're running Windows 8.1 with Bing, contact your device manufacturer for info on how to get installation media for your edition of Windows.

Again rather confusing as to exactly WHAT THE HELL does MS MEAN.

 

I read a Windows 8 key will allow you to install  but Not Activate

 


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in 2012 when i bought the serials it was Windows 8 Installation Media Creation Tool

 

but now  Windows 8 Installation Media Creation Tool isn't available anymore

 

MS wanna kill 8


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Have you tested an Validated a Windows 8 key will work....

I ask (Not that I need I do have both KEYS available)

 

quote from page

http://windows.micro...t-refresh-media

 

Notes
  • If you're running Windows 8, we recommend that you first try to use the Windows Store to install Windows 8.1. For answers to some common questions about installing Windows 8.1, see Update to Windows 8.1: FAQ.

  • If you’re not running Windows 8 or Windows 8.1, you’ll need to enter a Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product key. You'll also need a product key if you're running Windows 8 and trying to install Windows 8.1 Pro. To learn how to buy Windows 8.1 to get a product key, go to the Get Windows page.

  • If you're running Windows Vista or Windows XP, see Upgrade to Windows 8.1 from Windows Vista or Windows XP.

  • If you're running Windows 8.1 with Bing, contact your device manufacturer for info on how to get installation media for your edition of Windows.

Again rather confusing as to exactly WHAT THE HELL does MS MEAN.

 

I read a Windows 8 key will allow you to install  but Not Activate

 

 

of course it's xxxtremely confusing but i guess it was written before MS wanted 8 dead

by the way you must buy a windows 8.1 key if you got a windows 8 key and you want a windows 8.1 PRO key

 

but i got  a windows 8 PRO key 

 

actually 2


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I understand but you still need a Windows 8.1 Pro Key to Activate ...

 

so in my testing - found that a Clients USB Factory restore 8.1 OEM (by error- had both Factory USBs in same case and when one CRASHED) did factory install on a different clients system  -  yes BOTH were DELLS. both were/are Activated. having NO ISSUES on the Factory Restored.

One was OEM Windows 8 the other was OEM 8.1 -


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again and again and again

 

snuffy

 

you are asked for a key to activate at the very beginning

 

i promptly inserted my windows 8 PRO key

 

and then i continued with the installation

 

and right now i got a windows 8.1 PRO 

 

ACTIVATED


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i got 5 windows 8 pro keys from before windows 8 was released, they cost i think 14.99$ (119dkk)

 

I use them to install  from fresh windows 8.1 with key and activate.

 

 

 

(was an offer microsoft did - long time ago)


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i bought two windows 8 pro serials from microsoft in 2012 that i've never used

 

i must install 8 with these regular serials and then update to 8.1 in order to get  10 pro

 

or is it possible to install directly an updated 8.1 and then insert these windows 8 serials?

No, you can always Download the Full ISO and upgrade that way....


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No, you can always Download the Full ISO and upgrade that way....

 hey snuffy... i was the one saying that and you continued affirming that it was wrong ad nauseam


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 by the way i even inserted a windows 8 $14.99 key yesterday using Windows 8.1 8in1 x64 en-US

 

and of course windows 8.1 was activated


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i got 5 windows 8 pro keys from before windows 8 was released, they cost i think 14.99$ (119dkk)

 

I use them to install  from fresh windows 8.1 with key and activate.

 

 

 

(was an offer microsoft did - long time ago)

You're aware that, while the 8 key won't work for the 8.1 install - you can just use the generic Windows installation keys to get Windows to install - then when you're connected to the internet. Windows will say the key is invalid, and ask you to enter in a new one. Enter in your Windows 8 key, and 8.1 will activate. 

Why go through all the hassle of installing 8, then upgrading to 8.1 when you can just install 8.1 with a default key, then enter in your legitimate one once you're connected to the internet? That's what I do. I don't waste time that way.

P.S Here's the Generic Windows 8.1 Installation Keys (these are not proprietary - Microsoft freely distributes these 3 keys (as well as the rest of the Generic Retail Channel Keys on their website)
 

  • Windows 8.1 Core: 334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT 
  • Windows 8.1 Pro: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB
  • Windows 8.1 Enterprise: FHQNR-XYXYC-8PMHT-TV4PH-DRQ3H

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You're aware that, while the 8 key won't work for the 8.1 install - you can just use the generic Windows installation keys to get Windows to install - then when you're connected to the internet. Windows will say the key is invalid, and ask you to enter in a new one. Enter in your Windows 8 key, and 8.1 will activate. 

Why go through all the hassle of installing 8, then upgrading to 8.1 when you can just install 8.1 with a default key, then enter in your legitimate one once you're connected to the internet? That's what I do. I don't waste time that way.

P.S Here's the Generic Windows 8.1 Installation Keys (these are not proprietary - Microsoft freely distributes these 3 keys (as well as the rest of the Generic Retail Channel Keys on their website)
 

  • Windows 8.1 Core: 334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT 
  • Windows 8.1 Pro: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB
  • Windows 8.1 Enterprise: FHQNR-XYXYC-8PMHT-TV4PH-DRQ3H

 

 

 

They do work very fine here with latest version  dec iso releases of 8.1 full isos, in English and Danish.. I should really know, i got 5 machines running with latest iso, clean install, 2 laps 2 gaming rigs and a share server.

 

They activate right away.

 

I dont first install windows 8.

I install directly windows 8.1 without any OS on full clean and pure 8.1 refresh iso.

There's no hassle here, takes 5 minutes, then windows is installed with latest updates applied via dism, no hacking/cracking/slacking here :=)

Why should i use those install keys, when mine works perfectly accepting keys and installing + activate without problems.


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