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CLEAN INSTALL 'No Go' n SSD (SOLVED)

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#21
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Agreed, as I was trying to say to a youngster that he has no idea how to use a PC and said if everything was still dos...(cutoff) and said I was making Dos up! I shook my head in surrender. Not much point going farther.


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Sort of like "Its LOCKED" when it is simple "Not Accessable"

 

and "LOCKED" is a totally different thing.


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It looks like the probem he had was using diskpart to do the wrong thing. 

 

It seems that the windows 10 install is having problems with the MBR on the SSD.  This should fix the problem and allow installing Windows 10.

 

Return to Diskpart using the same method as before

 

        Type list disk and press enter.

        Hopefully you can see your SSD in the list. You should see a number identifying it. Now type select disk X (where X is the number identifying your SSD) and press enter.

        Type clean and press enter. This will write a blank MBR, YOU WILL LOSE ANY DATA ON THE SSD if you did have anything on it.

 

Now you should be able to install to your SSD

 

No use ... as I mentioned in my previous posts, I tried every diskpart possibility.

Clean  /  Clean & Partition creation / Clean & Partition Creation & Format

No avail.

 

Possible WIN10 considers only UEFI when it meets a SSD ...? :bootyshake: :bootyshake:

Not all (older) notebooks / mainboards / bioses  are UEFI capable ... :banghead: :banghead:

 

Looks to me like all of us are just guessing and trying to solve to our best knowledge, but nobody has a 100% answer to the issue.

As said, no problem whatsoever with installing WIN8.1 on same system. :roll: :roll:

Am thinking about taking out the SSD, clean & partition it with MiniTool Partition Wizard on my desktop and try again.

 

Then, concerned about the privacy issues popping up everywhere, am not sure if it's worth it.


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No real solution for your problem,but did you already try to upgrade your win 8.1 ?You can choose the option to 'keep nothing' during the upgrade,the only previous files that will be left,are in the windows.old folder,which you can delete after the completed install with cleanmgr.....

You will need to have your 8.1 anyway for the 1st time win 10 activation....


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He can install with /apply also.

and it makes no difference either MBR or UEFI. unless the ISO he has IS SET FOR ONLY UEFI.


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Guys, thanks for all of this but nope, nope, nope ...

I've tried them all.  I cannot find a solution that allows me to do a 'simple & clean' install from (multiple KINGSTON & INTEGRAL) USB sticks.

 

So far I found only 2 methods that work:

1. Snuffy's method working through GImageX

2. Installing 8.1 Pro (that works flawless by the way) and upgrading to 10 Pro.

 

Edit:

AND NOW I FOUND THE SOLUTION :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

WIN10 PRO is installing on my 'Packard-Bell' as I type.

 

As I know, on some systems usb devices may block booting.

So I removed the usb receiver of my wireless mouse and started the installation again.

And what do you guess ... :roll:

 

SOLVED !


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I agree that "windows locks" the drive is unclear.

I think you should (if possible):

1/ Take the SSD out and connect it to an other computer

Optional: Use the manufacturer's utility to erase the SSD.

2/ Clean the disk with an utility like Acronis Disk Director and set the disk to MBR (or GPT if relevant)

3/ Try to Clean install from a DVD or USB.

 

Only this way you will be able to find or possibly correct the problem.


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You can clean install on a SSD but it might not WORK properly due to your Windows Configuration.

My Fix for this is HERE. and you might have to

change your Configuration. 

 

Many OEMs do not give all the ShortCut Keys, and no where in the MANUAL  will you find.

but DISKPART will give some very valuable info.

 

http://www.beyondwin...dd/#entry129489


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When I installed onto my ssd drive , I removed all partions and then let the windows 10 disk set it up and I had no problems

 

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I had no issue actually installing, but I cloned from one format to another format,  RAID to AHCI, so had to BIOS change to NON-RAID.

so that I could get Rapid Start to work. 

then had to learn how to change the mSata from 8gb to 18.6 then what the hell it is a 32GB mSata so I moved it to 29GB.

and the New Samsung 32gb - 224 is faster than the old small Dell 8gb 222.


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HERE IS THE PROCEDURE TO UNLOCK A LOCKED OR FROZEN DRIVE:


ATA Secure Erase
Boot Computer with Ubuntu 10.10 or higher
Use terminal

Step 1 - Make sure the drive Security is not frozen:

Issue the following command, where "X" matches your device (eg. sda).
sudo hdparm -I /dev/X

Step 1a - Command Output (should display "not frozen"):
A possible solution for SATA drives is hot-(re)plug the data cable (this might crash your kernel).

Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase

Step 2 - Enable security by setting a user password:
WARNING: When the user password is set the drive will be locked after next power cycle (the drive will deny normal access until unlocked with the correct password).

Step 2a - Set a User Password:
Any password will do, as this should only be temporary. After the secure erase the password will be set back to NULL. For this procedure we'll use the password "Eins".

sudo hdparm --user-master u --security-set-pass Eins /dev/X

Step 2b - Make sure it succeeded, execute:
sudo hdparm -I /dev/X

Step 2b - Command Output (should display "enabled"):
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase
Security level high

Step 3 - Issue the ATA Secure Erase command:
sudo hdparm --user-master u --security-erase Eins /dev/X

Step 3 Command Output:
Wait until the command completes. This example output shows it took about 40 seconds for an Intel X25-M 80GB SSD.
For a 1TB hard disk it might take 3 hours or more!


Step 4 - The drive is now erased! Verify security is disabled:
After a successful erasure the drive security should automatically be set to disabled (thus no longer requiring a password for access). Verify this by running the following command:

sudo hdparm -I /dev/X
Step 4 - Command Output (should display "not enabled"):
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase
2min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 2min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT.
*******************************************************
If it does not unlock automatically!
*******************************************************
Let's unlock it:
sudo hdparm --user-master u --security-unlock Eins /dev/sdx

Disable security:
sudo hdparm --user-master u --security-disable Eins /dev/sdx

Now we're good:
sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdx
...
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
...
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But actually his SSD was NOT LOCKED. so that was not the issue.


So far I found only 2 methods that work:

1. Snuffy's method working through GImageX

2. Installing 8.1 Pro (that works flawless by the way) and upgrading to 10 Pro.

 

Edit:

AND NOW I FOUND THE SOLUTION :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

WIN10 PRO is installing on my 'Packard-Bell' as I type.

 

As I know, on some systems usb devices may block booting.

So I removed the usb receiver of my wireless mouse and started the installation again.

And what do you guess ... :roll:

 

and i think also he may have not had the USB bootable set properly, and Now this part

So I removed the usb receiver of my wireless mouse and started the installation again.

 

I have two systems that the only way to have mouse or keyboard is via WIRELESS so that seems strange as hell to me...

 

I'd start by looking in the BIOS Boot option section and see how that sequence is set.... surely the wrong USB was selected.


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Seems I cannot do a clean install of Windows 10 on my laptop's SSD.

Windows locks the drive.

Attempt to use DISKPART to no avail, drive remains locked.

 

Anyone ?

I don't know if you've solved it yet but i had the same problem and the only way i found to do it was download the ssd tool from the disk manufacturer. (mines is a corsair)


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I don't know if you've solved it yet but i had the same problem and the only way i found to do it was download the ssd tool from the disk manufacturer. (mines is a corsair)

Thx but solved already ... was usb issue


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This is an OLD problem. Here is the answer!

o ATA Secure Erase
o Boot Computer with Ubuntu: you do Not have to install Ubuntu. 10.1 seems to be the easiest to use.
o Use terminal

Step 1 - Make sure the drive Security is not frozen:

Issue the following command, where "X" matches your device (eg. sda).
sudo hdparm -I /dev/X

Step 1a - Command Output (should display "not frozen"):
A possible solution for SATA drives is hot-(re)plug the data cable (this might crash your kernel).

Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase
2min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 2min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT.

Step 2 - Enable security by setting a user password:
WARNING: When the user password is set the drive will be locked after next power cycle (the drive will deny normal access until unlocked with the correct password).

Step 2a - Set a User Password:
Any password will do, as this should only be temporary. After the secure erase the password will be set back to NULL. For this procedure we'll use the password "Eins".

sudo hdparm --user-master u --security-set-pass Eins /dev/X

Step 2a - Command Output:
security_password="Eins"

/dev/sdd:
Issuing SECURITY_SET_PASS command, password="Eins", user=user, mode=high
Step 2b - Make sure it succeeded, execute:

sudo hdparm -I /dev/X

Step 2b - Command Output (should display "enabled"):
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase
Security level high
2min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 2min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT.

Step 3 - Issue the ATA Secure Erase command:

sudo hdparm --user-master u --security-erase Eins /dev/X

Step 3 Command Output:
Wait until the command completes. This example output shows it took about 40 seconds for an Intel X25-M 80GB SSD, for a 1TB hard disk it might take 3 hours or more!

security_password="Eins"

/dev/sdd:
Issuing SECURITY_ERASE command, password="Eins", user=user
0.000u 0.000s 0:39.71 0.0% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
Step 4 - The drive is now erased! Verify security is disabled:
After a successful erasure the drive security should automatically be set to disabled (thus no longer requiring a password for access). Verify this by running the following command:

sudo hdparm -I /dev/X

Step 4 - Command Output (should display "not enabled"):
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase
2min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 2min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT.
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Ive had success in the past formatting using the linux installer?


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Hi Snuffy:

                I am always reformatting peoples computers and many have SSDs now, I use a tool called Partition Magic and it works great. Takes about 5 seconds to put the SSD back to factory specs. It get past the BIOS lock by booting into Linux, and then wiping it clean. Then I take out the USB that Partition Magic is on and reboot to install a new OS. Does anyone else do it this way?


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Seems there are many ways to do the same...

Diskpart - then clean install with dism or GImagx faster that way. and

as long as the user finds a way and they have several methods to do the same...

I do like the 7 to 10 min install..and you can set the BCD with dism also...


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