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On the subject of music, most old recordings rely almost entirely on dynamics...


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You will of course find old recordings that actualy works in these days of loudness, limiters and equalization, but dynamics sufffer, big time. Now, what is the gain? Absolutely nothing!

 

Dynamics in music is a totally own arena these days where everything is supposed to sound the same and as loud as is technological possible. Sometimes it simply is not the infinite versatilty that is the challenge, more so what you can do without it. Dynamics is a part of music, deal with it. From time to time I wonder what they did, the first that transferred vinyl masters to CD as they obviously did something right. Truth is they did little else, simply transferred the master to CD.

 

Man, we'll have to fight to get that back ;)

 

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For me,the real cd era started with Fleedwood Mac's Tango In The Night,and IMHO,it's hard to find albums these days that have the same dynamics.....


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You hafta stick your head in the bowl to get the real dynamics of this.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/97pgsm7nvl6qujq/toilet_flush.wav?dl=0

Which is the sounds that's made every time I empty the recycle bin, coincidentally.


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40 yrs of playing loud guitars and amps not too mention hrs with headphones on ... I'm grateful I can still hear at all - I'm definitely missing a few frequencies. 

But but compression and mastering algorithms have a lot to answer for - so does Idol, XFactor and any of those talent shows that allow people to warble all over a melody :histerija:


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I went through and compared a lot of recordings yesterday. Remaster versus original and there is a change for the worse 200x onwards where recordings wear you out and I notice I get tired of listening to the remaster. It is simply too loud.

Where the original recording may have a span of let's say 38db between the weakest and strongest sound, a dynamically compressed remaster limits that to say 12db. To my ear it mostly become tiresome and 'flat', but the non-remaster does not and can be played louder as the crescendo(s) only last for seconds.

 

 

You can pretty much pick up any remaster until mid 90's, then you better start 'cherry-picking' in the loudness war we're in (the whole thing is due to radio-play, destroying even the album format in the process it seems).

 

There is a tool out there that you can use to analyze your own remasters to see if they're remastered to pieces. MasVis is freeware, go check it out if you like.

 

Silence, music's original alternative and from where dynamics start :headbang:


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